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Thursday, 23 August 2007

The GodZone right comes out from under its rock


Well, I've been outed! Some right-wing dribblejaws* has me lined up in his beady little eyes (see picture)

this is him in his own words:

Trevor Loudon

About Me

I'm a libertarian and ACT Party member from Christchurch. I believe in freedom with responsibility, not freedom from responsibility. My ideal society is one in which government is slashed to the bone and people are free to reach their potential. To achieve more freedom I believe in working with all those who are moving in broadly the same direction. The views expressed in this Blog are strictly my own

Why do these people insist on using the word "libertarian" to describe their politics. They don't actually believe in liberty at all. The idea that you can "slash government to the bone" and leave people free to "reach their potential" in a global capitalist economy is just fairytale rubbish.

Libertarians are to politics what the flat-earth crowd are to science.

* I have changed my description of Trevor Louden. I originally labelled him a "neo-nazi goon". He objected to that label and claims not to be associated with any such organisation in New Zealand/Aotearoa. However, he has in the past been associated with an organisation called Zenith Applied Philosophy, which has some very unsavoury friends.
Mr Loudon has attempted to slander me by claiming friends of my friends have links with the Islamic Brotherhood. So he cannot claim to be the only injured party here.
Whether or not Trevor Loudon maintains any ongoing links with ZAP or other far-right groups, other than the ACT Party, is besides the point. His attacks on me are offensive and defamatory and designed to intimidate. To be honest, I didn't start this blog to have a troll-war with the likes of Trevor Loudon, but I am prepared to defend myself and my politics. Mr Loudon has, in the past had some associations with extreme right political groups in New Zealand.
You can read more about Trevor Loudon if you wish to. I'm finished with this.

12 comments:

Amy said...

Thank you Dr Hirst, for corrupting my impressionable young mind with your dangerous commie politics...

Marty said...

You're welcome Amy.
If we godless communists are anything, it's polite.

MikeE said...

You do realise that the Nazi's were socialist right?

You know - national socialist workers party. Refering to Trevor as a Neo Nazi is hardly accurate - and I'd suggest is defamatory as well.

Peter said...

Even if Libertarians are to politics what the flat earth crowd are to science, that does not make them Neo-Nazis. Libertarian values(whether you like them or not) in no way resemble those of Nazis.

Marty said...

I have a no trolls policy, so if you're not going to leave a serious and thoughtful comment, don't bother.

Anonymous said...

Hi Martin,

You may find the following links amusing

Russel Norman's questions to Trev

Asher links ZAP with National Front

Heine said...

If you have a no troll policy then perhaps you'd like to not start calling people Neo-Nazis because they took an interest in your politics.

Would you like to justify your comments about Trevor or do they stand?

Marty said...

heine: the links in the comment above yours speak for themselves.

Anonymous said...

So, because a few people who may have been a members were fascist, means that ALL people who may have been members of the organisation are neo-nazis?

Are you kidding?

With no proof, you risk defamation proceedings.

Cheers,
James

Joe Hendren said...

James,
Many of the posts on the NewZeal blog depend on rather tenous claims based on 'guilt by association'. I take it from what you wrote above you also would not approve of many of the claims made by Trevor in the past.

It was in this context that Russel Norman responded to a post concerning himself on New Zeal. He posted his own questions to Trev. Asher then undertook further research based on Trev's answers. A case of Trev being given his own medicine?

Peter said...

If you genuinely think that Trevor is a neo-Nazi, you must then think he is not libertarian, beczuse libertarianism is in no way pro Nazi. Why therefore not sate that he cant be a libertarian rather than criticise him for being libertarian?

Anonymous said...

Pots and kettle Martin, pots and kettles.